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Trump indicted again...

Funny thing... but most experts once again believe the charges are a reach and will be hard (if not impossible) to prove...


Another day, another unprecedented indictment of the former President and GOP frontrunner. As Turley suggests, if the lynch pin of this indictment is a phone call to the Governor, then this falls into Alvin Bragg territory.


Turley and others provide the reality that the call was in regards to the requested statewide recount, and would be seen as a "settlement" call. There is nothing illegal about requesting a recount or talking to the officials about it. Short of threats or bribes, this would be a completely legitimate and legal phone call, if not actually "perfect" as Trump describes it.


As most non-partisan observers suggest, there was no demand from Trump to "fabricate" anything, but rather a request to do a statewide recount that would uncover (aka - find) a discrepancy of the approximate 12,000 votes he was down. Did anyone suggest it was illegal for Al Gore to request a statewide recount in 2000 of the state of Florida? Moreover, from the evidence presented, it appears that references to the actual dialogue of the call are incomplete and leave out portions that make it obvious that Trump was not asking anyone to fabricate anything. This sort of one sided presentation is why indictments are so much easier than convictions. The grand jury was likely missing key information that the prosecutor left out on purpose.

Turley also points out that it telling that so many people refuse to acknowledge that it is even possible that Trump was simply suggesting that a full statewide recount would "find" enough discrepancy to make him the winner. In other words, the pretense of the phone call as evidence demands that you ignore the most probable meaning of the call and instead embrace the edited and gaslighted version of events. It is almost inconceivable that this sort of broad embrace of a lie by omission in applauded.


At the end of the day presumption of innocence is key in these situations. If you must assume that he is innocent rather than guilty (unless proven beyond reasonable doubt) then it would be very difficult to "prove" beyond such doubt that Trump was not just requesting a full recount and believed that 12,000 tampered or missing votes would be found during the process.

Btw... the Fulton County problems with their own recount may end up coming into play. By all accounts, their own hand recount numbers of the physical ballots are 17,000 votes short of what they reported to the Secretary of State. I am quite sure that the Trump team will want to offer these sorts of anomalies as evidence that they were justified in requesting recounts and talking to officials about them. At the end of the day, the Trump team will likely put the State of Georgia on trial and will likely bring whatever evidence they do have of fraud.

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...the charges are a reach and will be hard (if not impossible) to prove...

And there's the rub and the core issue with the entire gambit -


Nothing needs to be proven. What these corrupt cocksuckers are banking on is filling each jury with 12 TDS-addled hacks. Think 12 alky's on every jury. Minds are made up and Trump is guilty on all counts before each trial even begins.


The trick to make this whole banana-republic schtick sustainable over the long run is for democrats to never relinquish power ever again, because once they do and the tables are turned on them (if the GOP has the courage which, in and of itself is debatable), then it's turnabout is fair…


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